|President Obama in the Garage with Marc Maron|
Episode 613 - President Barack Obama- Find behind-the-scenes photos of Marc's meeting with the President here: Marc meets Obama
PRESIDENT OBAMA: (25m 55s) Increasingly I've spent my time thinking about "How do I break out of these old patterns that our politics has fallen into?". Which is part of the reason I'm here, I'll be honest with you. One of the conversations I've had with my communications team about is "How do we talk to folks who aren't already so dug into a particular way of thinking about politics that we can create more space for people to have a normal, ordinary conversation and one where the lines aren't so clearly drawn black and white, It's not this battle in a steel cage between one side and another.
MARC MARON: Well I became a little disillusioned. I used to do left-wing talk radio and I realised that there was a lot of things I was naive about...
- Listen to Marc Maron and [friend-of-blog] producer Brendan McDonald: Episode 614 - The President Was Here